snram4
01-15 06:28 PM
That is true. No one knows the impact of outsourcing. Because no public data is available unlike H1b or L1. If american public gets exact data about outsourcing then they will oppose that also and goverment has to act. But there is no legal binding for Government or Corporations to give data about outsourcing. Some time back most manufacturing went silently out of USA and when people started realizing it was too late to act. But relaxing immigration will not prevent outsourcing as everything is based on cost
Whether you like it or not...they cannot save the job by restricting the H1/L1B... simply the job will fly to offshore. First they need to fix the GC black hole� stop harassing people before they are enforcing the rules. Then no one needs to work for consultants
Whether you like it or not...they cannot save the job by restricting the H1/L1B... simply the job will fly to offshore. First they need to fix the GC black hole� stop harassing people before they are enforcing the rules. Then no one needs to work for consultants
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somegchuh
10-18 06:42 PM
You have hit the nail right on the head. They issued 225000 H1b's between the years and 2000 and 2002 but the GC quota remained the same. Also, there is no quota for H1 (large # goes to India/Chine) but there is a quota for GC.
The idea is they want to control it so that only a third of the ppl who come on H1 end up getting a GC. They make the GC process hard one way or the other. Either you get stuck in the labor queue or in the retrogression queue. The average time to get has always been 4 years. Some ppl get lucky and get it in less than 3 and some get unluck and spend over 5 years trying to get it!
Ultimately the question for everyone is how long are you willing to put your life on hold? If you wait long enough you will get it. They seldom reject cases (unless it was a fraudulent case).
Having said that lot of us are thinking about leaving because US is making harder and harder for people like us to stay here and lot of us don�t want to put our lives on hold for years and years hoping that may be one day I�ll hit the jackpot called green card. On the other hand, lot of us don�t mind waiting and have been waiting for long time. It�s a matter of preference. Remember you are supposed to be a guest here. Do your work and get the hell out of here. Only 140000 guests are allowed to stay back and rest have to pack their bags. I mean that�s the real intent behind this quota system.
To make long story short, for lot of people US is not the option available on the table so quit comparing US against others. Just think about where you might end up if you didn�t move to Canada and compare that country against Canada.
The idea is they want to control it so that only a third of the ppl who come on H1 end up getting a GC. They make the GC process hard one way or the other. Either you get stuck in the labor queue or in the retrogression queue. The average time to get has always been 4 years. Some ppl get lucky and get it in less than 3 and some get unluck and spend over 5 years trying to get it!
Ultimately the question for everyone is how long are you willing to put your life on hold? If you wait long enough you will get it. They seldom reject cases (unless it was a fraudulent case).
Having said that lot of us are thinking about leaving because US is making harder and harder for people like us to stay here and lot of us don�t want to put our lives on hold for years and years hoping that may be one day I�ll hit the jackpot called green card. On the other hand, lot of us don�t mind waiting and have been waiting for long time. It�s a matter of preference. Remember you are supposed to be a guest here. Do your work and get the hell out of here. Only 140000 guests are allowed to stay back and rest have to pack their bags. I mean that�s the real intent behind this quota system.
To make long story short, for lot of people US is not the option available on the table so quit comparing US against others. Just think about where you might end up if you didn�t move to Canada and compare that country against Canada.
senthil1
03-16 01:24 PM
It depends on INS. If they notice the overlap between study and experience and they can send RFE. If you send explanation to RFE then it is upto INS to accept or reject. If thy doo not notice then no problem.Some people in INS have some idea about fake experience certificates in India. It is easy to get experience certificate even if you do not work. You can get idea by analysing similar situation.
QUOTE=Subst_labor]i am not paying anything, its a decent company from NJ. the only thing i am concerned about is that this experience was when i was IN college and it was a really small company (part time thing..)[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=Subst_labor]i am not paying anything, its a decent company from NJ. the only thing i am concerned about is that this experience was when i was IN college and it was a really small company (part time thing..)[/QUOTE]
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cps060
03-20 06:49 AM
Once the three years pass, is it possible to re-apply for the PR card again ?
Also if the entire 5 years pass & someone's PR expires, can he/she re-apply for PR ? If so, are all steps like Police check etc to be done again ?
Also if the entire 5 years pass & someone's PR expires, can he/she re-apply for PR ? If so, are all steps like Police check etc to be done again ?
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amulchandra
01-23 09:29 PM
This is old link but talks about immigration fraud by some consulting firms.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/immigration/060924immigmain.html
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http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/immigration/060924immigmain.html
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smisachu
06-16 02:55 PM
You cannot compare a recession to retrogression. A recession is a shrinking economy which is a natural correction of supply and demand. Retrogression is an artificial rationing which has no bearing on demand. It is almost un democratic and prejudiced. What they are doing here by imposing caps by country is they are rationing brilliance. Is it our fault that India and China produces more number of PhD�s and engineers than say Kenya or Denmark?
If you are looking for diversity look for it under family immigration and not under employment based immigration.
Your analogy of recession works for the H1. As you see in a falling demand environment the demand for H1 visas this year is tepid compared to previous years. There is no excess supply in employment based immigration as all EB immigrants are gainfully employed and hence �Employment Based� immigrants. There certainly are some who have purchased substitute labor certifications and finding loop holes in the law through consulting firms. I doubt that they are a significant part of the population waiting for visa numbers.
Your attaining green card is luck more than Pluck. Due to random visa allotment last year many people with dates in 2006 were given green cards ignoring people with prior dates. Now do you intend to say that they were more qualified than those with older priority dates? The whole intention of retrogression is not even to weed out the bum applicants, it is just a result of apathy towards a small immigrant population which is politically insignificant. You can argue all you want of the survival of fittest, but the basic fact is if some one has a PhD in physics and has multiple companies offering jobs, he is not going to stand in line meekly to collect his green card after 10 years. He is going to leg it and go to some other country who will welcome him and his intellect with open arms. So the fittest will be gone and only the mediocre will be left.
The current retrogression is not a way to filter the fittest out; it is just dumb political red tape.
Why do you have to resort to calling names ? Are ad hominem arguments the best you could come up with ? Let me give you an analogous case wherein people say that a recession is a good thing. Recession occurs in order to cleanse the economy of bohemian excesses and inefficiencies. Do you think that such people are sadists and belong to the mental asylum ? Of course there are people who get affected in a recession. Does it mean it is not desired ? In a similar vein, you need to understand that there were and are huge gaping inefficiencies in the current immigration process. There has to be a way to curb these excesses and inefficiencies. Retrogression may not be the best way but it is the only way utilized right now. If you still believe that I have to subscribe to these inefficiencies despite having gone through the immigration process, I am sorry I beg to differ.
If you are looking for diversity look for it under family immigration and not under employment based immigration.
Your analogy of recession works for the H1. As you see in a falling demand environment the demand for H1 visas this year is tepid compared to previous years. There is no excess supply in employment based immigration as all EB immigrants are gainfully employed and hence �Employment Based� immigrants. There certainly are some who have purchased substitute labor certifications and finding loop holes in the law through consulting firms. I doubt that they are a significant part of the population waiting for visa numbers.
Your attaining green card is luck more than Pluck. Due to random visa allotment last year many people with dates in 2006 were given green cards ignoring people with prior dates. Now do you intend to say that they were more qualified than those with older priority dates? The whole intention of retrogression is not even to weed out the bum applicants, it is just a result of apathy towards a small immigrant population which is politically insignificant. You can argue all you want of the survival of fittest, but the basic fact is if some one has a PhD in physics and has multiple companies offering jobs, he is not going to stand in line meekly to collect his green card after 10 years. He is going to leg it and go to some other country who will welcome him and his intellect with open arms. So the fittest will be gone and only the mediocre will be left.
The current retrogression is not a way to filter the fittest out; it is just dumb political red tape.
Why do you have to resort to calling names ? Are ad hominem arguments the best you could come up with ? Let me give you an analogous case wherein people say that a recession is a good thing. Recession occurs in order to cleanse the economy of bohemian excesses and inefficiencies. Do you think that such people are sadists and belong to the mental asylum ? Of course there are people who get affected in a recession. Does it mean it is not desired ? In a similar vein, you need to understand that there were and are huge gaping inefficiencies in the current immigration process. There has to be a way to curb these excesses and inefficiencies. Retrogression may not be the best way but it is the only way utilized right now. If you still believe that I have to subscribe to these inefficiencies despite having gone through the immigration process, I am sorry I beg to differ.
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jsb
06-02 12:43 PM
Best wishes to you and sorry to hear this. I thought everyone was entitled to SSN after 10 years of work in the US.
Do you need to have a green card before you qualifiy to get your SSN back?
Better get it cleared. As far as I know, if you have earned 40 quarters (worked in the US for 10 yrs), you are entitled to get SSA at your retirement irrespective of your status. There are some exceptions, but for India/China citizens living in their home countries, they will get it. Of course, 25% non-resident tax will be cut at source.
Do you need to have a green card before you qualifiy to get your SSN back?
Better get it cleared. As far as I know, if you have earned 40 quarters (worked in the US for 10 yrs), you are entitled to get SSA at your retirement irrespective of your status. There are some exceptions, but for India/China citizens living in their home countries, they will get it. Of course, 25% non-resident tax will be cut at source.
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PlainSpeak
01-13 01:27 PM
I wish- Logiclife would answer this thread. He has a way to explain things and put things in perspective. He is very direct and I like that.
Yes i have sen LogicLife's responses before and let me tell you i am impressed. Perhaps an reply from him will provide answers. Not to say that you yourself have not been eloquont. As i said before yours was the only sane answer i event got, but i reply to all because to respect a person is to respect what he believes in and i do that by replying back
Yes i have sen LogicLife's responses before and let me tell you i am impressed. Perhaps an reply from him will provide answers. Not to say that you yourself have not been eloquont. As i said before yours was the only sane answer i event got, but i reply to all because to respect a person is to respect what he believes in and i do that by replying back
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sapota
02-12 12:54 PM
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2008/02/house-dems-to-p.html
Good strategy. Need to make sure all EB provisions are still intact in these reforms targetted for spring & Summer of this year.
Good strategy. Need to make sure all EB provisions are still intact in these reforms targetted for spring & Summer of this year.
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alterego
06-27 07:00 AM
Visa number retrogression has no basis in the number of I 485s received. It is based on the number approved.
In the current melee, it will be a huge number of 485s applied, it does not mean the 485s will be approved any quicker.
Hence I am not sure where you all are getting these rumors from.
In the current melee, it will be a huge number of 485s applied, it does not mean the 485s will be approved any quicker.
Hence I am not sure where you all are getting these rumors from.
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kuhelica2000
02-16 11:34 AM
My friend, writing in bold font doesn't make your argument bolder. An argument is bold by the underlying merit of the argument. Where did I mention anything about race?
Even if I had said that there is fraud and corruption in India, it would not be considered as a racist comment. Every year Transparency International generates a list of most corrupt nations. Ever wonder why India is on that list. Ever wonder why out of all places only in India US visa officers are instructed to do technical interview for IT visa applicants? You are living in complete denial and trying to play the race card whenever you get an opportunity.
Fraud and corruption is prevalent everywhere incuding India and a prepondernece of the bodyshops are nothing but a factory of producing overnight "IT Talents". Accept this is as one of the problem of this retrogression.
You are accusing people from India for using wrong credentials for picking up H1b/L1 jobs. This is ridiculous and pretty racist.
Even if I had said that there is fraud and corruption in India, it would not be considered as a racist comment. Every year Transparency International generates a list of most corrupt nations. Ever wonder why India is on that list. Ever wonder why out of all places only in India US visa officers are instructed to do technical interview for IT visa applicants? You are living in complete denial and trying to play the race card whenever you get an opportunity.
Fraud and corruption is prevalent everywhere incuding India and a prepondernece of the bodyshops are nothing but a factory of producing overnight "IT Talents". Accept this is as one of the problem of this retrogression.
You are accusing people from India for using wrong credentials for picking up H1b/L1 jobs. This is ridiculous and pretty racist.
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chanduv23
02-04 09:10 AM
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http://www.murthy.com/nflash/nf_020207.html
Looks like the final version may be different and may have some loopholes to satisfy AILA and employer lobby.
http://www.murthy.com/nflash/nf_020207.html
Looks like the final version may be different and may have some loopholes to satisfy AILA and employer lobby.
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sidbee
01-14 01:49 PM
V true.
Folks, the memo clearly empowers USCIS to crack down on consulting firms which don't have any in-house infrastructure (other than contractors) to execute projects.
H1B is misused for a long time now by these firms and it was high time they put the screws on these "job shops" as they call it. Unfortunately some talented workers will get impacted.
But if they are talented they will find opportunities elsewhere. Trust me on that. And better opportunities.
Nathan is exactly right. These firms have created a mess by bending rules everywhere.
Don't start speculating that USCIS is trying to throw out all immigrants from this country. I'm surprised that folks don't take a proper view of the situation (yeah..bring the reds on and call me an anti-immigrant).
At-least somebody is talking sense.
I think, USCIS is taking the correct steps to prevent the misuse of the H1B Program.
Folks, the memo clearly empowers USCIS to crack down on consulting firms which don't have any in-house infrastructure (other than contractors) to execute projects.
H1B is misused for a long time now by these firms and it was high time they put the screws on these "job shops" as they call it. Unfortunately some talented workers will get impacted.
But if they are talented they will find opportunities elsewhere. Trust me on that. And better opportunities.
Nathan is exactly right. These firms have created a mess by bending rules everywhere.
Don't start speculating that USCIS is trying to throw out all immigrants from this country. I'm surprised that folks don't take a proper view of the situation (yeah..bring the reds on and call me an anti-immigrant).
At-least somebody is talking sense.
I think, USCIS is taking the correct steps to prevent the misuse of the H1B Program.
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vamsi_poondla
05-02 09:34 PM
Language is a very hot boiled subject. We have to be a bit practical about what makes it work. Anti-hindi agitations have other roots as well. Understanding Dravidian history needs an open mind. Same is the case with everything about India.
IMO, India is not formed with a single ethnic group colonizing almost empty land and forming a nation based on some principles and later vast immigration followed by years on assimilation based on melting pot concept. It is more of an idea that is formed politically. All 4 south Indian states having a vast culture being ordered to use one language perhaps backfired fueled by resentment against upper castism that existed in Congress during that time.
Again, it is not either supporting or criticizing any event. That is what happened. We have all Hindi movies being super hit in Chennai. Once can walk in any street in Chennai and transact in English. I find many auto-drivers or even common man,go out of way to help when I speak in English in Chennai. So, please dont stereotype,
Coming back to the point, if we had gone for Hindi as a national and sole business language, (I dont like insisting any thing in a democracy), we would have perhaps missed IT/BPO wave and most of us will not be here in this forum.
IMO, India is not formed with a single ethnic group colonizing almost empty land and forming a nation based on some principles and later vast immigration followed by years on assimilation based on melting pot concept. It is more of an idea that is formed politically. All 4 south Indian states having a vast culture being ordered to use one language perhaps backfired fueled by resentment against upper castism that existed in Congress during that time.
Again, it is not either supporting or criticizing any event. That is what happened. We have all Hindi movies being super hit in Chennai. Once can walk in any street in Chennai and transact in English. I find many auto-drivers or even common man,go out of way to help when I speak in English in Chennai. So, please dont stereotype,
Coming back to the point, if we had gone for Hindi as a national and sole business language, (I dont like insisting any thing in a democracy), we would have perhaps missed IT/BPO wave and most of us will not be here in this forum.
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potatoeater
03-31 11:40 PM
Chhota Shakeel planned to kill Varun Gandhi
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chhota-Shakeel-planned-to-kill-Varun-Gandhi/articleshow/4341949.cms
Chhota Shakeel makes his entry into grand indian election mela :)
What else is coming.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chhota-Shakeel-planned-to-kill-Varun-Gandhi/articleshow/4341949.cms
Chhota Shakeel makes his entry into grand indian election mela :)
What else is coming.
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ravise
09-15 10:51 AM
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June-08 4/1/2004 122 2 9 18 61 30
July-08 4/1/2004 88 1 7 14 29 36
August-08 6/1/2006 261 0 3 5 19 63 103 67
Sept-08 8/1/2006 3 0 1 0 0 2
June-08 4/1/2004 122 2 9 18 61 30
July-08 4/1/2004 88 1 7 14 29 36
August-08 6/1/2006 261 0 3 5 19 63 103 67
Sept-08 8/1/2006 3 0 1 0 0 2
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va_il
07-12 09:39 PM
I wonder how you guys feel with the latest developments ... you changed your plans or your sourness to US has subsided?
BTW we used to read a story in our childhood .. Grapes that are not reachable to you are always sour ... the moment you can reach them they suddenly become delicious :)
BTW we used to read a story in our childhood .. Grapes that are not reachable to you are always sour ... the moment you can reach them they suddenly become delicious :)
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BharatPremi
07-26 04:01 PM
So why are you here in the first place? Why in US? Why applying for GC? Why on IV to try to improve this broken system? Face the fact, you too dont want to return or else you wouldnt be here.
There is no harm in being selfish and persuing a better life. "Do something good for India" is an ideal punch line for preachers. BUT Be realistic.
Rongha_2000,
Hypothetically speaking let's say if USA decides not to take you in permanently what will you do?:D
There is no harm in being selfish and persuing a better life. "Do something good for India" is an ideal punch line for preachers. BUT Be realistic.
Rongha_2000,
Hypothetically speaking let's say if USA decides not to take you in permanently what will you do?:D
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godbole_sanjaya
04-20 10:57 AM
I wud suggest you against your wish.
ita
03-29 10:11 PM
(Though I would also like to see this forum used only for immigration matters..)
Thought of adding in few more points..
So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:
One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
All of them state sponsored.
(On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)
Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.
All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.
For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.
I am not sure what vision Mr.Advani has for India. May be at this age he might have better vision than other people in the same league.
Thought of adding in few more points..
So what kind of visionary are you looking for.If we make the current govt's performance as a basis then is it someone like this:
One who questions existence of Rama , makes a success of Sethu samudram project pulling down Ram Sethu thus hitting the sentiments of the Hindus in the Hindu dominated land.
One who arrests Sankaracharya (both semior/junior acharyas)based on suspected conspiracy angle on Deepavali eve and holds him in Jail for 60 days , bringing interruption to the Chandramauleswar puja that has been consistently conducted in the Mutt for 2,500 years (it's another thing nothing was proved for almost 5 years now)
One who abuses Sadhvi Pragnya Thakur with evil intent to bring up something called Hindu terrorism,conduct 4 (not 1/2) narco tests apart from other unmentionable things.
One who overlooks the murder of Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.
one who set's up conversion camps in Tirumala.
All of them state sponsored.
(On a side note:If Hindus' protest against these acts call them communal, it they don't call them spineless.
It's like Hindus in Hindu dominated land are damned if they do ,damned if they don't)
Well of course none of the Hindu's did anything when all these things were going on.It's another thing that they don't get any credit for their communal harmony kind of nature. Some how the de facto image has to be demonic Hindus who are in majority in India discriminate and hate minorities.)
Mumbai terror attacks, Controversial nuke deal, bomb blasts in 5/6 other cities.
All other candidates in the above poll will surely give some what better performance than this if made PM.
For those who don't know and who are backing Manmohan Singh he never contested any elecetion so far and he is also not fighting these elections.He is taking Rjay Sabha route again. Don't know at what gun point Sonia Gandhi is holding him but this guy actually wants to retire after having had so many major surgeries all his , one more recently.
Buzz is also that if UPA wins Manmhona singh will be made PM and after some time will be replaced with Rahul Gandhi.So it's all hog wash.
I am not sure what vision Mr.Advani has for India. May be at this age he might have better vision than other people in the same league.
amitga
02-13 10:28 AM
I think every body who wants to have a class action law suit should commit for $500 towards the expense. Only when we have commitment for $500 with person name and contact info, then we should move forward with the idea of Class action law suit. We need 500 people to commit for this otherwise there is no point in moving forward in this direction.
There might be some people who will be willing to pay money but not listed as participant, and visa-versa and we should have at least 500 people who are willing to pay.
There might be some people who will be willing to pay money but not listed as participant, and visa-versa and we should have at least 500 people who are willing to pay.
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